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IITs are Premier Institutions of the Nation where utmost research goes and crores of fund flows. But, no IITians found to be achieving Nobel prize. What could be the reason?
kaunsi research yaha pe ye sikhaya jata ki ghisa kaisa jata
aur rahi baat fund ki saare official rishvatkhor beech me kha jaate hai
lab ke saare instrument ki expiry date nikal chuki hai
innovative students ki koi ijjat nahi
then what hell bring noble prize for us
Well, what else can you expect when the only answer a student who wants to do a research project gets is "you don't know enough" or "read so and so book first"?
there is a reason behind this
actually its not our fault but the main thing is that nobody is to promote us
there must be a reason behind that more than 80% of senior scientists are on administrative posts also but in MIT you will find that most scientists are there to do research only.
no actually what i think is that the people eat the money in the way only.........all facilities here are bad be it mess, net etc. that might be beneficial...though india has got talent but they show in foreign countries.....be is venkatraman ramakrishnan,hargovind khurana, s.chandrashekhar or anyone....even c.v. raman got he idea when he was travelling on board a ship.....so there should be more international exposure...all we indians regard our research as inferior to the foreign names.....because slavery has entered our blood.
you can not say that slavery has entered into our blood but there are some things which have to be understood,see all the nobel prizes we are getting now a days in india ,all those persons are from foreign university.
kapil sibbal is saying that he will imitate the whole cocept of foreign univercity in india .he is from cornell ,it does not mean that he will just imitate it here .actually he is always obsessed with the concept of foreign university and there is a difference between obsessed and motivated .you can not imitate it has to be different.
more tougher the education will result in more sophisticated products but i dont know that what grade system would result.oxford university still has seats made of stones,not wood.
i want to say a lot but....................
IITs are good only because the best brains enter here, not because they offer anything extraordinary. They select the cream of the hardworking indian students, and then boast about being the best. Talking any more than this is beating around the bush.
Even professors at IIT say this to BTech students,' Dont do Mtech - Phd in IIT, Go for MS abroad.' Thats the level of research here. Nobel Prizes, I don't see it happening.
i think the curriculum isnt good enough for research work as in other countries..................
I can bet that half of the folks here are not loving what they are doing .they are just doing it because they are better than others or they have just proved to the society that they are better than others....not because they actually love it.....
Well its not totally the fault of the IIT system,but also our govt.,our constitution.
We are given the right to freedom of speech but not allowed to practice it from our very childhood , in school itself a child needs to know his country's president and primeminister name without knowing the meaning of what it actually is !!!
The only good student is the one who gets a better grade in class.
The parents will always say that LOOK AT HIS SON HE SCORED SUCH A HANDSOME PERCENTAGE IN THE CLASS
The practicals in the schools are not done to understand the topic but rather done to get the results, a student can get the acurate results but often can interpret it , its more like "BALA TALI" .
Well this is a serious issue for the whole nation other wise we would always lag behind than out western counterparts.
Well, first of all, IITs are primarily engineering institutes and Nobel Prize is not given for engineering.
There are many IITians, both in India and abroad, that have done great research and have been awarded international awards and prizes. I work in Computer Science and can talk about CS only. Godel Prize, one of the top honours in Maths/Theoretical Computer Science has been won by a team of Professor and 2 BTech students at IIT-K.
Amit Singhal, head of Google' Search Ranking is an IIT-R alumnus. Rakesh Agrawal, who practically started the field of Data Mining is too, an IIT-R alumnus.
So, the situation is not so bleak. It is just that students now a days want everything but will do nothing.
As one student above said, when you ask for a research project, Professors say, "read this and that book". Dude, what else should they say -- take thisproblem and solve it. Try to be rational. I am doing my PhD right now and I have guided a couple of undergraduate students for their BS projects. This is the first thing me and my advisor say to students. Read this book or these apers. That gives us a chance to analyze students' capabilities and seriousness.
I am sad to say, but most of the students want to do projects just to add a bullet int in their CVs. They do all kinds of "Farzi" and "Jugaad" stuff. There are very few who are really serious and actually work hard. And as you may expect, they do end up doing great work. When I was in B.Tech, I knew few students who were able to publish good papers put of their research projects. I did.
Stop whining and start doing something.
I have seen the curriculum et al and foreign universities (heck, I taught a course also). The situation at IITs is not bad. It is just that a large number of the students are not that committed and good.
(A little bit Same case is with Indian Army)